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Joe Rogan Experience #1198 – Derren Brown

Derren Brown is an English mentalist and illusionist. He has a new special called “Sacrifice” streaming now on Netflix.

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  1. This guy is dishonest about his shows. Not seen this latest one, but the last one was an insult to anyone with the smallest amount of intelligence.

  3. If you haven't heard of this chap before now, i'd urge you to look up some his previous endeavors. The bloke is absolutely gobsmacking and im not sure how well known he is across the pond.

  6. 0:00 = Los Angeles wildfires, how they’re impacting Joe’s neighborhood. Joe’s love/hate relationship with living in LA.
    4:50 = Derren’s Instagram and paintings, photography. Derren talks about being a shy and timid kid, how he got into hypnosis and magic.
    13:25 = Derren explains the handshake introduction as it relates to hypnosis, how he once used diversion tactics to diffuse a potential street fight.
    17:55 = Process of hypnosis, psychology of hypnosis and suggestibility.
    26:45 = Derren talks about his stage show “Miracle” and experimenting with faith healing, the psychological component of it, and faith healing as a form of hypnosis.
    30:35 = The Placebo Effect. Joe discusses the possible impact of having an extremely positive attitude, Derren’s response on the limitations of that by outside reality.
    40:00 = Derren discusses his Netflix show “The Push” (or “Pushed to the Edge”), trying to convince someone to kill someone on the show to see if it can be done.
    45:15 = Derren discusses his show “Apocalypse”, staging the end of the world for an unknown participant. Near death experiences, how they can positively impact people.
    47:25 = Derren discusses his new Netflix show “Sacrifice”.
    54:20 = Derren discusses his show “Hero at 30,000 Feet”, convincing a regular person they have to emergency land a plane.
    57:40 = How Derren comes up with the concept for a show.
    1:05:20 = How fictional narratives from movies give people false expectations with their own lives. Joe discusses how modern humanity has lost touch with nature, particularly our relationship with animals.
    1:09:00 = Shamans, the experience of transcendence. The importance of finding meaning in life, even if you’re an Atheist.
    1:17:35 = Tyson Fury’s experience with severe depression, how important goal setting was for him to get out of his depression.
    1:19:45 = Christianity introducing the idea that human suffering will be rewarded later. Fear of death.
    1:23:20 = Needs of the human mind, the need for knowledge, wisdom, inspiration. Jung’s model of psychoanalysis.
    1:27:15 = Suggestibility, science of suggestibility and hypnosis. Derren’s show “The Assassin”. Ethical complications of convincing people to do something awful under hypnosis and how it permanently impacts that person.
    1:32:20 = FBI tactics for catching potential terrorists. Possibility that hypnosis has been used in the past for “Manchurian Candidate” types of agendas.
    1:36:05 = Derren’s book “Happy” (about happiness). The importance of anxiety as a trigger for self-growth. Joe’s belief that happiness comes from embracing difficult tasks.
    1:45:15 = Being shy, overly introspective, fear of rejection, anxiety of interactions with people. Disillusionment as a learning tool. Manifestation, luck, genetics, environment all being factors in success.
    1:51:20 = The universe as a perspective enhancer.
    1:55:25 = Fraudulent “medium/psychic” TV shows. How cults work. People’s need to believe in something even if we know it’s ludicrous.
    1:57:45= Derren finding unexpected comfort in the meaninglessness of life, accepting things for the way they are and what you can and can’t control.
    2:05:05 = Cultural cycles of rediscovering things. Philosophy of atheism and belief. Podcast wrap-up.

  9. Joe Rogan you have surpassed yourself by having this amazing guest on. I get the feeling that you will have wished you asked more questions once you’ve watch his back catalogue. He is in his own league.
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  10. @JoeRogan, The show where @DerrenBrown led the person to commit murder is a concept very close to @JordanBPeterson's Maps of Meanings course. The idea is to transform a person's understanding of their capability for malevolence. Great Interview!

  14. Aside from the
    hunting bullshit, the people that have been on lately is the best run the pod has ever had! Tyson Fury, Seb Junger, Sean Carroll, Alex Honnold, John Kavanagh and now Derren Brown. Still waiting for Bill Browder, that'd be a whirlwind of a pod

  21. If you got some conservative forestry guys in there they could prevent these HUGE fires. You can avoid the massive fires with fire breaks and clearing out the the dead junk.

  28. I’ve been thinking of Derren all month . I honestly have no idea how I knew this show was going to happen. End of sober October I honestly thought you guys knew Derren . Wow weird wow

  29. Real convo from the beginning
    Derren: everyone in LA is driving big vehicles.
    Joe: yeah everyone drives Escalades and Tesla’s.

    I think Joe gets a little more out of touch with reality every day.

  31. Derren Still has the nodding habits =P
    Watching Derren's show has really given me quite an insight on how life actually is , and I actually get interested in psychology after watching his shows.
    I learn alot throughout these years ,and I actually return to my "spiritual path" (not newage all that) after learning so much. Anyway , today's spiritual path is kind of dangerous , just watch out there are so many money grabbers , even for people who is not grabbing money for it might not be the real deal. Words , has it's limit. Don't throw away your logic if you want to understand deeper within yourself and walk the spiritual path. Even if you believe in something good , believing in anything blindly , it is like you are just walk around without light and it is a matter of luck that you get to the destination in one piece.
    Life is kind of funny actually , if you want to learn something , it is good to have some "training wheels" that assist you , but that are only good until you learn the actual skill.
    Anyway , Derren is good =)

  38. Seeing the notifications of some of the names that pop on the JRE is like the feeling of getting good news.. and it's only gonna get better! LOVE these podcasts! 😀