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Nicolini Manhandled Angela Lee in Grappling, Can she do it in MMA? https://bjjscout.com/2019/06/14/michelle-nicolini-manhandled-angela-lee-in-grappling-can-she-do-it-in-mma/

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  1. bjj scout in bjj digest 91: "Believe it or not I'm still going to do that [ufc 229] post fight study…!"

    also bjj scout in bjj digest 165:

  3. BJJ is the best martial art for 1 v 1 if you’re isolating art forms, but street fights are hardly ever 1 v 1.
    Ideally in a street fight you want to stay standing. As soon as your head is anywhere near the ground you’re one step (literally) from being viciously KOed.

  6. I don't really drink so I'm not sure what a heavy drinkers response is like, but shouldn't it be a problem that a bouncer got handled easily by a drunken BJ Penn?

  11. Did he take a bunch of blue belts and have them fight random people walking down the street? Or is he just stating his opinion because that isn't dispelling a myth.

  12. I would have liked some reasons or alternatives other than blue belt doesn't mean shit. Have to have wrestling? Mma only? Blue belt in gi or no gi? Very unhelpful

  16. Sorry Jim, but you're talking based on feelings, not facts. Mostly all blue belts know a decent takedown, are able to control their opponents very well and have common sense enough not to pull guard on concrete or go for a flying armbar. Every blue belt I've trained with could handle a streetfight with no issue unless their may be a significant size advantage on a way smaller opponent. Plus people who don't train naturally expose themselves whether it's not understanding hips or always allowing an opportunity for an underhook, so even if you are put in a bad position you can reverse your way out immediately.

  17. 2:58 Jim Miller would win 99.9999% of street fights. He would normally win 100%, but someone out there might be carrying Kryptonite in their pocket.

  19. Jim's just speaking from firsthand knowledge of how good people are, and how many good people are out there, and what things like athletic or size advantages do. He's not really knocking jujitsu.

  25. I don't think blue belts who don't train for fighting situations are going to win street fights. Dudes blitzing with punches are going to catch anyone off-guard and if bjj dudes haven't trained for the spaz, how would they default on what to do?

  27. Blue belts these days are trash. Back in the day, everyone trained with strikes, at least sometimes. Now? Almost never. They wont be used to it.

  28. On the blue belt thing, you gotta consider the credibility of where they got their belt, gi, nogi. My buddy been doing BJJ strict for two years, but he'd prolly still get tooled up before he can execute his game by someone like me who's been doing martial arts of all varieties for a long time. Too many factors man, some of people are beasts on the bag but when the nitty gritty starts it's just not their area. You never know who trains these days either so best bet is to avoid conflict altogether.

  29. Generally speaking, Jim is probably right (he is sort of an expert on the topic). I grappled with plenty of pushover blue belts when I was a white belt. I’m a blue belt now, and it took me over 2 years including judo and wrestling practice concurrently. There’s no standard for what constitutes a blue belt in bjj, and I’ve met plenty who couldn’t take anybody down, and who couldn’t maintain top position. Those two things alone would make them ill equipped for a fight.

  32. In 2019? Yes. In 2009 when people had to work hard to get a blue belt and would actually train wrestling and would train with the old rules, no..I'm refering to the new generation of participation belts btw.

  34. I would say blue belt me would have a significant advantage over untrained me in a street fight. But I'd still not give myself even 50% chance in a fight against some random guy, even if I'm a heavyweight. Because I don't train striking.