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BJJ Scout: Ben Askren Study Part 5 – Crossbody Strategy

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Final part of a series on Ben Askren’s use of Folkstyle in MMA. Details of the Crossbody ride and it’s relation to Ground and Pound.

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  1. I think matt wrestling is underutilized in MMA because there are too many things to cover and these skills take time and the right coaches. Askren is arguably the best wrestler to come to MMA and he has such an understanding of wrestling he made the conversion. He's showing us what you can do with matt wrestling and he will force his competition catch up or get crushed. It's the same reason MMA striking has progressed. Strikers could never sprawl or avoid getting clinched, until they figured it out, and now you have a some more representation of karate (wonderboy, mvp) and hapkido (whittaker). MMA is responsible for exposing everybody to each other and letting the pressure testing commence. This will make everybody better.

  4. under utilized because nobody can flow between positions like that and maintain control, you'd have to be at Askrens level to be comfortable enough to deal with all these techniques.

  5. I simply cannot believe that that idiot mindsmash has more subscribers than you, your videos are so well made and are such incredible break downs that anyone can learn from!

  9. Using just one hook and combining pins with submission threaths is a thing that the 10 planet guys also use, but they focus on leg/hook/hip control instead of pinning. I have a slow speed to do good backtakes while doing sports bjj, and i use just one hook a lot of times, the claw control of Askren is great.
    As always, great things bjjscout!

  10. Great stuff as always! Mat wrestling is a no gi specialty and translates well into positional combat like MMA where you can finish with something other than a submission. People are waking up to the limitations of BJJ in this context and adaption is coming across the board as traditional wresting presents more innovative solutions than back takes with no collar to choke. Maia has taken BJJ as far as it can go currently in no gi MMA, I look for techniques like Askren's folk wresting influence to emerge in the next generation of young talent entering pro MMA . Striking will always fill seats, but the influence of wresting on MMA is undeniable. St Pierre returning will certainly show case some wrestling! I love the tournament BJJ breakdowns too, can you bring some depth to the Gi world in the near future?

  11. It's like everything else: only when someone utilizes it that the technique is popularized. Also, UFC has been focused on fast-paced knockout brawling fights because they're exciting to the general non-mma educated crowd.

  15. I'll give a different take on why it's under utilized:

    It's because the value of a pin / price of being in guard is different in folk Vs MMA Vs BJJ . It's likely to change a bit now in MMA as we're entering another pivot of standing up Vs mat returns as gnp from different guard positions and turtle keeps improving.

  16. BJJ Scout we need a leg lock series, Sambo, BJJ, it doesn't matter we just need a high level leglock series.

    PS don't give up to much 'Funky Material' my son plans on using it in college this season.

  19. You're doing more to promote MMA than anyone I know. Not to mention advancing the sport itself, you're educating viewers about fighters and allowing us to enjoy fights on a much much higher level.

  20. Mat wrestling is underutilized simply bc ppl don't know how to apply it to mma. Most think of mma mat grappling as pure jiu jitsu but to transfer wrestling to mma takes some smarts

  21. Have to give it up to bjjScout here. I claimed that Askren's ride's were nothing new in MMA and people's preference for hooks were based on a preference to finish the fight, But this Mat Return series is the real deal. Seems like these returns do offer tangible benefits to the seat belt/hooks game if an opponent is deep into his escape from the turtle.

    The biggest question that remains is if these techniques work against top American fighters who mostly come from folkstyle backgrounds and have supplemented their wrestling with boxing. What Askren has done is interesting but remains to be impressive until he does it to a top guy

  22. I'm really wondering if Askren's style is better for mma than Maia's. I know they are not competing against the same level but still, Askren's style seems like it might be safer and effective for the W, but Maia's might be more submission oriented. What do you guys think?

  26. Most good wreslters are more well served in ncaa competition which narrows the professional circuit to wrestlers who are 25+ and the olympics isn’t a huge stepbfrom ncaa d1 nationals. Why would they throw that away to train mma start from 0 get crazy concussions AFTER they have a college degree?
    Theres no incentive for the best wrestlers to go mma. Jordan burroughs didn’t it’s really rare to see an olympic level wrestler and it seems like the ufc doesn’t look for them.

  28. Be interesting to see you do a breakdown of Rockholds top game-he uses a number of tricky mat returns, leg rides and pins, along with inverted triangles and guillotines.

  30. I think it's under utilized because it's not commonly taught, and not everyone can ride someone well. Even many elite wrestlers are unable to hold other wrestlers down for long.

  31. Theyre all obsessed with striking they only train ground because it’s necessary. Theyre being those for the reason the underutilization

  32. Kinda crazy that simple wrestling moves and techniques, like a Western hook, cross face, wrist control, hip control, are so underutilized in MMA grappling, like Askren and this series has.shown, it's the next evolution in MMA

  37. I think Askren said it best on JRE. His style isn't as entertaining to the average fan, wanting to watch two guys duke it out. But MMA is a science of techniques, and those who understand that concept appreciate what Ben does. Thanks for posting these videos man!!! ✊?

  41. I'm surprised its taken me this long to find your videos. Completely amazed at how well you break things down. Subbed with the bells on 🙂

    Do you speak in your videos at all?

  42. Damn. Ben and Khabib do the same thing on the mental aspect; completely demoralizing you. Khabib is too damn strong and Ben is too damn good for you to do a bloody thing. Looking forward to Ben putting the UFC fighters in quicksand.

  44. I think its under utilized because, although a highly effective and intelligent strategy, it can be extremely boring to watch and the ufc is about making money through views. With that said, askren is one of the few people who actively use striking on the ground to an extent that makes it actually entertaining. Well, the more later developed version of Askren that is. I should add that Askren really needs to work on his stand up game, not because he needs that to finish fights nor that he has a soft chin, but because taking all those unnecessary hits like he did vs AlekSarhin will fuck up his brain.